Grompe: I do not believe the NIH is going to "open the floodgates" beyond what is already being funded. The only federal restriction President Bush placed on this funding was for the creation of new lines of stem cells, created after August 9, 2001 or the subsequent funding of research using lines created after that date. So, I do not expect NIH funding to increase that much.
In hESC research, only a tiny part of it has to do with deriving new lines of embryonic stem cells. The bulk of it has to do with laboratory attempts to get those cells to differentiate into new cell types. This part of the research, the bulk of it, has already been largely supported by NIH. I don't see Obama's new funding rule having a major impact. The truth is that this area of research is already well funded. At this point, the production of new lines of hESC's promises little scientific gain. The only difference here is that research on the other non-Bush lines (those generated after Aug. 9, 2001) would now be eligible for funding. But these lines are already largely distributed. The supposed demand for "new lines" of human embryonic stem cells was largely political and I doubt most labs are going to want to spend time creating new lines. The Bush lines were by and large sufficient for robust research. The whole premise that the 'Bush doctrine' has been "holding back the field" has just never been true.
Berg: Given this reversal of policy, do not existing efforts in states like California, New York, and Maryland to offer state funding for such research lose their purposefulness?
Grompe: If the purpose of these state-based initiatives was explicitly to compensate for the lack of federal funding for human embryonic stem cell research, this is certainly true. Interestingly, however, the California initiative ushered in by Prop 71 and publicized as exclusively for embryonic stem cell research reinvented itself early on as an "all-stem cell research" initiative. People who voted for Prop 71 were told just the opposite, but the organizers of the California stem cell initiative (The California Institute for Regenerative Medicine) never planned it to be an exclusively embryonic stem cell fund.
I would also note that many scientists are of the opinion that hESC research has been largely over-rated. It is even driven to some extent by an infatuation with of the 'forbidden fruit' you might say. Many scientists believe that too much useful money has been unfortunately diverted to this research, in a disproportionate amount.
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Berg: Can you give us your sense of the status on where iPS research (direct cell reprogramming) stands and where it is going in the short run (the next 4-5 years)?
Grompe: Right now, iPS research is rapidly becoming the dominant way to make pluripotent stemcells. It is highly likely that reprogramming will work without having to use viruses to introduce genetic alterations directly into the genome of the cells. That is the current way of proceeding, and although it works, it would still not be safe to do it this way with human cells. But soon scientists should be able to reprogram the cells by simply soaking the cells in a kind of chemical cocktail -- no viruses needed. They already have this working in mouse cells, and I can't emphasize enough the speed with which this is happening. One problem so far with iPS cells has been that, once reprogrammed (from skin cells to pluripotent cells), they remember that they were once skin cells. I've seen this happen a lot in my own lab. Reversion to their original state is a problem here, but scientists are working hard at it to solve the problem. The new approach -- making them without permanent genetic alterations -- should also help to more easily solve this problem.
Berg: Will this be the year when some team of researchers reports successfully deriving embryonic stem cells from a cloned human embryo?